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Danny Pettus. [MATT MCKEAN/TIMESDAILY]

FLORENCE — Lauderdale County sent a letter to Mayor Steve Holt this week stating no opposition to the city moving the Confederate monument from the Lauderdale County Courthouse, but city officials said they want it in the form of a resolution from the County Commission.

The letter from Lauderdale County Commission Chairman Danny Pettus refers to a letter from Suzanna E. Rawlins, president of the Alabama Division of the United Daughters of the Confederacy that declares the city owns the statue.

Rawlins stated in the letter that the United Daughters gave the city the statue in the early 1900s.

The county had reached out to state Sen. Tim Melson, R-Florence, to find out who owns the monument, and Melson returned with the letter from Rawlins, Pettus said.

Pettus said he wrote a letter to Mayor Steve Holt on Monday. It confirms the city owns the statue and states: "... the county would not have any basis for making a claim for damages to the statue if said damages occurred during the moving process."

"It is on our property but they have our permission," Pettus said Thursday.

He said there was no formal commission vote on the matter, but the four commissioners agreed to the letter and Pettus signed it.

The city has since written a proposed resolution for the County Commission to pass. It states that Rawlins said the city owns the monument and the commission agrees.

It goes on to state the commission resolves that the city is "authorized to enter onto the Lauderdale County Courthouse property to remove the monument and that Lauderdale County hereby holds the city harmless for any damage done to the monument."

"It has to be a duly adopted resolution," Holt said Thursday. "We gave it to them in resolution form.

"It basically says what Danny says in the letter, but it's just like if I wrote a letter it has no authority behind it without the council's vote. The commission has to adopt a resolution like this one that was drafted."

Holt and Pettus agree the city would be liable if any damages were done to the courthouse property during the process of moving the monument.

Holt said he assumes the city would make sure the company that moves the monument would be properly insured to pay for any damage.

The mayor said earlier this week he would propose that the council approve moving the monument at its July 7 meeting. However, he said since the next County Commission meeting isn't until July 13, he probably would have to wait until the county passes a resolution.

If the commission does so on July 13, Holt indicated he would make the proposal to the council at its July 21 meeting.

bernie.delinski@timesdaily.com or 256-740-5739. Twitter @TD_BDelinski

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Patrick stroupe

Are we more worried about some stuff we saw on TV,

than we are the fact that UNA's faculty and police covers up rape cases...? And I'll guarantee you its still happening.

or the little sex trafficking ring we have going on between some of our churches , and UNA, and some of our chinese students...?

And keep in mind the things you've seen in Atlanta...

What else is in Atlanta?

CNN.

Like I said, all this is down to is media publicity.

If anyone really should be charged for inciting riots , it is them.

Otherwise, NONE of you would be jumping on this bandwagon, seeing as before it happened , no one has ever given a care about the confederate flag or statues until now.

Most of the time, these stories are ONLY taking place in the famous popular cities, never the the more obscured ones.

...and why would you think that is?

that's where all the tourism, and TV cameras are, and THE MONEY.

They're wanting you and the whole world to believe these riots and stuff are going on EVERYwhere all across the country, and its just NOT. ...not until we have some losers that don't do good things with their time and believe everything they see in tv and internet, that think they need to use this time as an excuse to get up and raise some ruckus and cause trouble.

That is the only type of people protesting.

Its the same as the news trying to convince you that the entire middle east is some blown up land of horror....

yet you go see it for yourself and its nothing like it.

This decision signifies that our leaders have caved in to whiny cowards who do not value maturity, work ethic, and proper behavior/ class. The law of nature is survival of the fittest.... its science...its life. kowtowing to the losers who don't pull their own weight and do irresponsible things habitually is unacceptable.

And you know this is also going to bring repercussions...right?

We wouldn't want to see Handy's statue damaged would we?

or any assaults on the court house lawn...?

...or do we? ...OF COURSE YOU WOULD !!! that would make headlines. draws attention to Florence, gets us some media spotlight, makes you rich makes the media rich.

I don't know why you , black and white, cannot see that you are just being played and led to a trap.

Patrick stroupe

Are we more worried about some stuff we saw on TV,

than we are the fact that UNA's faculty and police covers up rape cases...? And I'll guarantee you its still happening.

or the little sex trafficking ring we have going on between some of our churches , and UNA, and some of our chinese students...?

And keep in mind the things you've seen in Atlanta...

What else is in Atlanta?

CNN.

Like I said, all this is down to is media publicity.

If anyone really should be charged for inciting riots , it is them.

Otherwise, NONE of you would be jumping on this bandwagon, seeing as before it happened , no one has ever cared about the confederate flag or statues until now.

Most of the time, these stories are ONLY taking place in the famous popular cities, never the the more obscured ones.

...and why would you think that is?

that's where all the tourism, and TV cameras are, and THE MONEY.

They're wanting you and the whole world to believe these riots and stuff are going on EVERYwhere all across the country, and its just NOT. ...not until we have some losers that don't do good things with their time and believe everything they see in tv and internet, that think they need to use this time as an excuse to get up and raise some ruckus and cause trouble.

That is the only type of people protesting.

Its the same as the news trying to convince you that the entire middle east is some blown up land of horror....

yet you go see it for yourself and its nothing like it.

This decision signifies that our leaders have caved in to whiny cowards who do not value maturity, work ethic, and proper behavior/ class. The law of nature is survival of the fittest.... its science...its life. kowtowing to the losers who don't pull their own weight and are irresponsible with their conduct is unacceptable.

And you know this is also going to bring repercussions...right?

We wouldn't want to see Handy's statue damaged would we?

or any assaults on the court house lawn...?

...or do we? ...OF COURSE YOU WOULD !!! that would make headlines. draws attention to Florence, gets us some media spotlight, makes you rich makes the media rich.

I don't why you suckers, black and white, cannot see that you are just being playing and led to a trap.

Patrick stroupe

You KNOW,...that there's a thing called "the law"...and when you break it, and you get caught...then that's just where it sits. nobody told you to roll the dice, but you did it and you lost. now tell the cop "good game" and take your consequence like a pro.

I don't see any blacks bad mouthing Islam around here either...

they usually like to get involved with it, thinking whites are scared of it and there won't be any white people there...

until they meet me...

(you didn't know we have a mosque in Florence did you?)

I don't see any of them questioning Muhammad owning slaves...

I also find it amusing that our "BLM" specialists, and LGBT as well....will try to pull muslims into their argument to "Side with them".... Thinking we're all a bunch of Islamaphobes, paying no attention to the fact that Islam SURE doesn't condone to their behaviors and lifestyle.

I'd like to see them try pulling some of the stuff they do here in a sharia country and see how long it lasts.

Its also of interest, the students complaining about Bibb-Graves.....

Patrick stroupe

shooting your mouth off to them is another thing that gets you in trouble...and by that..i mean that sometimes you give them information they didnt ask for unaware that you're doing it.

thats why they read you your rights before they put you in the car.

theyre basically telling you

"anything you say is at your own behest. so don't messup and tell me some stuff you don't want me to know, because there's a chance you could get off easy with this if you don't."

I've been picked on by white and black and hispanic cops all the same, ....yes... it HAS happened at times when I did NOTHING to deserve it, but if I'm going to be honest....there was a lot of those times when I got arrested that I could have prevented it. You know how?

...by not doing dumb stuff.

Patrick stroupe

rayshard was a pure idiot. He cared NOTHING for "Black Lives"...

He was on the road with your black children on it when he was blasted drunk... therefore he gave not a flip about people in general.

how many cops have we really had in florence or lauderdale that brutalized people....? and I'm saying this as someone who HAS had his go round of getting arrested....and I can tell you, if a cop is rude to you, don't take it personal... he's probably like that with everybody, even other officers. But most of the time the cops were pretty fair with me, ....was it because I'm white? nope.

Its because...I'm POLITE. and CALM. I also don't try to con them. (playing fake nice). Don't try to sugar coat them... you're not that good at it and its annoying.

Just be calm, polite, and don't talk too much.

Patrick stroupe

The people who generally like to complain about this statue and confederate flags or racism have never known a day of struggle in their lives, grew up spoiled, living in nice houses, driving brand new cars by the age of 16 (or earlier), going straight into college after high school....via somebody else paying their way, what have they go to complain about? Police brutality... First of all, george floyd acted up.

the cop that killed him was a very evil person for what he did. ....now lets discuss rayshard brooks... the cops were nice to him. brooks was stupid drunk and driving to the point of passing out...then if you watch the full video, you can clearly see the instance where he made a decision that cost his life. DO NOT fall for the "Black Lives Matter" narrative that this guy is somehow comparable to george floyd.

Patrick stroupe

Its interesting how this thing has stood in place for over a hundred years and nobody's bothered questioning it , until now, just because we have a bunch of crybaby's who like to stir up trouble and do things that are obviously wrong that happened to see some nonsense on the TV in Minnesota and Atlanta , and now they think they should get involved with it, because they grew up spoiled and fed a bunch of nonsense in school and on the TV and everything they think they know about the world came out of it, and have nothing else better to do with their time. All this is done for is publicity.

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